the biggest thing as a group we need to do is get more organized...it seems in kara2 we always have new people joining due to lack of participation from others and we spend way too much time dealing with explaining what needs to happen and whos mt or ot, in the short amount of time we were in kara last night we probably spent half of it tryin to figure out marks and who was tanking what---we as a group need to get a better "core" of people who are serious about raiding and spend more time grouping together even outside of kara so we all get used to playing together as a group with everyones playstyles...also if someone knows how to do or not to do something in kara you need to say something before we start killing mobs and our timer starts repsawns have also been a big factor with getting to fight attumen.... im hoping most of you are realizing by now that kara isnt going to be done in like an hour or so like some dungeons can be...if you are serious about raiding kara plan on spending many hours there, its the only way we are going to learn how to kill and allow us to move on to better things...i understand rl comes first, believe me anyone whos grouped with me knows how often i have to go afk due to rl, however on kara nights we can have that and i plan around it...if you cant dedicate the time for the raid dont come in and then say oh i gotta leave, youre screwing the rest of the group over and also you mightve taken someone elses spot who wouldve spent the time it takes in there